Are Rocky Mountains Built in Canada?

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Sooo... My question is.. Are the 90's steel Rocky Mountains built in Canada or just assembled in Canada?

The frame tubing decal on most of my bikes say Built in Canada...

But not sure if the frames were Tig welded in Asia and then the parts put on the frames in Canada?

I know that my Rocky Mountain Fat City Flyer and Ritchey Rocky Mountain were made in Japan at the Toyo factory but not sure about the following:

- 87 blizzard (regular non sloping geometry)
- 88 avalanche
- 91 summit
- 92 vertex
- 92 experience
- 96 blizzard
- 96 equipe

Thanks!

 

[FluffyChicken]

Top end and a few others where. Altitude, some Blizzards and the custom ones of course.

Toyo of course us a top end frame shop. Still hand welded by skilled people I would assume.

 

[shutter]

Thanks, but I'm trying to find out about other specific models. I.e. what does "built in Canada" mean?

Is there a way to know by serial number or model? I know that some of the blizzards were but which ones?

I.e. my summit has fillet brazing on the seat clamp area... I assume that one done in Canada? See pic below

 

[walleater]

99% the Vertex is Canadian. 'Made In Canada' often refers to where the stickers were put on! A bit of a joke really.

 

[shutter]

99% the Vertex is Canadian. 'Made In Canada' often refers to where the stickers were put on! A bit of a joke really.

That's what I figured... =)

 

[Mr.Toad]

I'm not going to be much help with your bikes but can say my 87 Blizzard (with sloping tt) was an import, i've also looked over a 88 Blizzard (non-slope) that was made in Japan as well. So i'm guessing your 87 Blizz and 88 Ava were imports.

I have a 93 Blizzard that I think was was made in in CA.

Early catalogs are some help.

Sounds like you have quite a selection of RM's!

 

[FMJ]

99% the Vertex is Canadian. 'Made In Canada' often refers to where the stickers were put on! A bit of a joke really.

http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/eic/ ... 03169.html

The new Guidelines introduce a distinction between "Product of Canada" and "Made in Canada" claims. "Product of Canada" claims will be subject to a higher threshold of Canadian content (98%), while "Made in Canada" claims will remain subject to a 51% threshold of Canadian content but should be accompanied by a qualifying statement indicating that the product contains imported content. In both cases, the last substantial transformation of the product must have occurred in Canada.

The Bureau recognizes the need for transparency and predictability regarding its assessment of "Product of Canada" and "Made in Canada" claims. These Guidelines are intended to provide businesses and industry groups with information that will help them develop strategies to ensure compliance with the false or misleading representations provisions of the Acts with respect to such claims. Significantly, the Guidelines, and industry compliance with them, will promote clarity and assist consumers in understanding the meaning of "Product of Canada" and "Made in Canada" claims, and in making informed purchasing decisions.

So your RM with the Made in Canada sticker on the seat tube is probably a Taiwanese import. RM always made a big marketing fuss about their bikes coming with hand built Wheelsmith wheels. While a nice touch (wheel building robots are actually quite good at what they do), they go a long way in making a bike hit the 51% threshold, along with spec'ing RF and Syncros parts. I believe there's some legal wizardry/smoke+mirrors to include assembly labour in the total as well.

The obvious ones are obvious, though.

And if it says this......

then this guy built it.

 

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Thanks! That's what I figured... Most of mine are probably imports then

 

[FluffyChicken]

A serial number with R at the beginning means the frame was welded by Rocky or at least someone they held weld them for them locally.

Of course it's all bollocks anyway.
The tubing wasn't, most part where not and they'll not have obtained Canadian metal ?

So it's all international.

It depends if you determine a bike to be Made in Canada if the frame was welded there, or Made in Canada if the 'bike' was made there.
A frame is just another part like a fork , derailleur, inner tube, cable...

 

[FluffyChicken]

P.S. Are you sure that is fillet brazing on the '91 Summit. How do you know ?

Personally I think that is probably a TIG welded frame, maybe farmed out.