Baines flying gate

[jonjonsatnav]

Hi to everyone newbie alert !
I have just taken my Baines flying gate out of storage, its in a bit of a sorry state
Quite rusty but I reckon it is just surface rust.
Its just the frame .
So first thing is the forks god knows where to start
I have emailed Trevor Jarvis and await his reply.
I am not an enthusiast but would like to put the bike together again and ride it now and then when time permits !
So if there is any information out there on which parts may fit, I expect original parts are either too expensive or unobtainable these days.
I am not a millionaire so I maybe thought of a donor bike to egg me on the road and then buy parts as I can afford them.
This part may cause controversy but I would like to go modern on the parts eventually but for now an old hack donor is the only way.
Any comments or info would be most helpful
Thanks
John.

 

[lewisfoto]

Welcome John,

First off that is a very impressive and collectible frame as a first project. Many of us (myself included…cough cough) would scoff at the idea of building that frame with modern kit, but I am a believer in the idea that each individual should build the bike they like. You will run into a few challenges fitting modern parts on that frame because many of the standards have changed over the years. Brake reach, rear spacing even bottom bracket threading have gone through a metamorphosis. (Many current road bikes don't have threaded bottom brackets at all the chainset is press fitted)

Any way get some pics up soon

Steven

 

[Old Ned]

Is it an original Baines Bradford built one or a Trevor Jarvis replica? This will make a lot of difference over what period of components you will be able to fit.

 

[jonjonsatnav]

Hi old Ned
Thanks for your reply
I believe its an original Bradford built
As my father gave it to me in 1980 and it was well old then
The bike was a "fixie" although I'm not sure if that's how it came out of the factory.
I can't ask my dad as we fell out and haven't spoken in ten years
Any way back to the bike the serial number is w1202 I think its a w but there is a bit of brazing overflow
Any information would be great thanks
I can post pics if anyone's interested but its not pretty at the moment

 

[Old Ned]

Some info here -

http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/baines.html

 

[bagpuss]

Re:

Make sure you rust proof the inside of the frame . Also give it a shake and listen for anything moving about inside the tubes . ie rust !

 

[jonjonsatnav]

Thanks very much for all your replies/suggestions I will be hopefully getting the frame powder coated soon , but as for building/restoration I need rather deep pockets as I have been told 300 is a estimate to get it powder coated and fit bottom end crank and headset .
That's without chain set or forks just a frame ready to bolt things on .
I think this project will take years lol
Blasting and powder coating at 85 seems reasonable
So I will get this done and hang the gate on my wall and admire
Cheers
John

 

[mattsccm]

Re:

Don't rush into things. Firstly try and check the frame isn't knackered. doubt it but you never know. Look for rust holes!
Does it need a repaint or would a patina of use look better?
Try and find out what was fitted originally and then what would be reasonable updates. After all bikes don't stay the same and in days gone by a bike was for life.
If it's for the wall then just build it fixed. 1 brake lever needed for a start. Research is your friend, after all what's another year or two?
Failing that sell it to me! I used one a bit as a teenager in the early 80's but lost contact with the mate who owned it. woe is me

 

[Bats]

Three hundred quid for a powdercoating?

More like 50 quid if you take it apart yourself first.

 

[bagpuss]

Rip off at £300 for powder coat .£60 in Derby for a good job .Limit on colours but still at superb price.

I have a gate in the pipe line . Pictures soon