Moots YBB

[JustKev]

Has anybody ridden a Moots YBB? I mean properly, not just a spin around the car park?

I'm watching one on ebay that I may have a punt on.

I'm just not sure about the 'suspension' - is it noisy? And is there a rider weight limit on these frames as I'm not the smallest guy on the forum

cheers guys (and girls)

 

[scant]

Has anybody ridden a Moots YBB? I mean properly, not just a spin around the car park?

I'm watching one on ebay that I may have a punt on.

I'm just not sure about the 'suspension' - is it noisy? And is there a rider weight limit on these frames as I'm not the smallest guy on the forum

cheers guys (and girls)

I've had a ride. I'd deffo recommend a test ride, theres no real dampening & depending on rider weight & how you ride they can feel slightly flexy. several years ago they made a lot of sence. now that XC FS weights have dropped & shock performance massively increased to the point of no pedal bob, they dont make much sence to me now (aside from fairly low maintenance)

 

[Lid]

Yup. I have owned mine since 1999-2000. Love it to bits, light ,smooth and the rear sus is only appreciated when you lock it out and ride around with it rigid. I am not a very big guy so never had any issues with dampning or flexing or any noises.

But again I very much agree with Scant times have moved on. For real MTBing I have a Rocky ETSX. The beloved Moots is my commuter bike and with a lifetime warrenty on the frame I will never sell it.

 

[tintin40]

For real MTBing I have a Rocky ETSX. .

:shock: :shock: S**t I thought I have been doing that since 1988. Now I know were i've been going wrong

 

[Augustus]

Kev,

My Echo was basically a YBBeat rear end on an XLM front end.

I had a love/ hate relationship with it. Loved the softail ness of being able to put more power down sitting down or sprinting over small bumps like grass and south down chalk.

But hated the flex when you stood up and climbed. It was awful. Lateral flex was very noticable. It was shocking how much the stays bent around when you de-coupled them from the shock.

Biggest bug bear i had was the 'thunk' of the shock either bottoming out or topping back out - never was sure which. But it was very annoying. It was a 17.5in and I was 11st so it wasn't as if it wasn't suited.

Had a new shock fitted with the optional harder spring AND elastomer and it still did it. Sold it in the end and bought the XLM and because of a long and narrow post, it feels not that far off in comfort terms most of the time.

Was a very cool bike though and the Merlin interpretation of the shock/ wishbone area was even prettier than Moots's (IMO).

 

[JustKev]

Cheers Wu - and if it flexed and topped/bottomed out with your 11st on it then what would happen with all my weight/power?

The noise factor is enough to put me off. My cranks were creaking a little at Chicksands last Thurs night - it was only when I saw the video I realised just how loud it was!

 

[Augustus]

there's every chance it was a unique problem. but we did take it apart and look about for obvious signs and the merlin owning lbs owner couldn't see anything obvious either.

Have a friend with a Litsepeed Tsali softail and we rode them at the same time (both same model years) and his was way superior and not much heavier. It had a RS SID air shock that you could lock out and it was so much smoother and stiffer. The front end was 6/4 ti but it was the rear end that was noticably better.

There must be loads of happy ybb owners though, would probably trounce my theories.

 

[scant]

i think the softails with shocks are a slightly different story. i've ridden the old trek stp & while still not mega stiff. it wasnt mega flexy & the damping & rebound were a lot more controlled.
personally kev i'd stay on the hunt for a asr or superlite

 

[messiah]

i think the softails with shocks are a slightly different story. i've ridden the old trek stp & while still not mega stiff. it wasnt mega flexy & the damping & rebound were a lot more controlled.
personally kev i'd stay on the hunt for a asr or superlite

My father has a Trek STP which I think is a superb bike... just enough give to take the sting off the hits without undue flex. It really suits him as he scoots about the local forest and singletrack. He gets his bus pass in a few weeks time but I doubt he will hang up the Trek anytime soon