Peugeot frame id

nick1968

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I have aquired this frame from the original owner.He says its a 753 peugeot (he forgot which model),but had it refinished by Vernon Barker.I would like to put back to original model/colour scheme. Frame no Y8128217 and has 74 in larger numbers under the bottom/b.

Any peugeot experts out there?
 

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this nice 1989 Galibier frame looks similar, altough its an 531

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nick1968":1czm1069 said:
What does the 74 stand for under bb,obviously as you say proably 86 to 90 model.

isnt that just the length of the bracket?

The weight might indicate if its a 753 or 531 reynolds frame...

( 753 - Heat-Treated Manganese-Molybdenum. The most exclusive tube set from Reynolds. Essentially 531 made with reduced wall thickness and heat treated to increase tensile strength)
 
Peugeot Bicycles built during the 80's have a serial number with eight digits and a letter prefix.. like yours.. first number after the letter indicates the year.. so its a 1988 model
 
serial no

According to this built in Dec 88

SERIAL NUMBERS

CYCLES PEUGEOT
























The following numbers are from a 1985 P18 mixte, As you can see there's a paper sticker and a stamped
number. As noted earlier the stamped serial number is 8 digits. The sticker breaks down as:




P18=model
T=handlebar type
BU=unknown or burgundy
53=frame size in CM

This the only Peugeot I've see with this unique numbering. The breakdown is as follows:

PH12=model
54=frame size in c











Date Codes

Component date codes are helpful in determining a models year. Date codes are simply stampings on various
components which represent their date of manufacture. Codes vary by manufacturer. Older models may have
NO codes while newer models have many. Codes can be found on cranks, hubs, rims, stems and other
components.

A good source for interpreting component date codes is the Vintage Trek website.

VintageTrek

SR crank code 1982 PH12

AVA rim code? 1967? Peugeot
2 66 Feb. 1966 D. Alberts photo

Stem date code 1982 PH12
03 1982 March 1982

Hub date code 1982 PH12
14 82 14th week 1982

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Serial Numbers

Prior to 1979 it is NOT possible to identify a Peugeots year of production from its
serial number. Regardless of what you've read and where you've read it it's simply
NOT possible!!! The number of digits may indicate the decade of production with 5
digits representing a 50's model, 6 for a 60's model and 7 for a 70's model but this
has been proven to be false many times!!!. Peugeot changed decal schemes very
frequently, changes in decals, along with component changes, make it easy to
narrow down a models year of production to within 2 or 3 years without a serial
number. For bikes produced prior to 1979 decal schemes and component date
codes are the preferred methods of narrowing down a production year.
For bikes produced in the 50's, 60's and early seventies its more difficult to date
them because Peugeot didn't change decals or components often. Some models
were identical in every way for a period of several years. For those models it takes
not only the serial number but a keen memory if you were the original owner or knew
the owner.

Some time around 1978-79 Peugeot labeled bikes with a small paper sticker. This
sticker has the alphanumeric model, size, possibly a color code and a model specific
serial number. I say model specific because these models also have a frame specific
number. A frame specific number would have the following format: Y012 12345678.
At the time of this writing its not known what these numbers mean. Y012 may be the
date code with '0' being the year and '12' being the month the frame was built,
not the bike. '012' may also be '0' for the year with the second and third dgits
being a frame material code. There are many frames with YX03 stickers and YX01
stickers which may be for Carbolite 103 tubing and Reynolds 501 respectively.
Although no definitive documentation has been found/provided more than like;y the
numbers represent the year and month of production.
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Shape of the cutout bit of the rear dropout definitely looks like those in '89 catalogue. '88 753 Perthus Pro has more of a triangular shape. I've got a '90 653 Athena with the same shape dropout but the brake cable guides got moved to under the top tube that year so '89 does look likely. Are you sure its a 753 frame? Take a look here (page 7) it could be an '89 653 Racing Team MAB Z. http://cyclespeugeot.com/PDFs/1989French.pdf
 
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Bastos87":8fptykj3 said:
Peugeot Bicycles built during the 80's have a serial number with eight digits and a letter prefix.. like yours.. first number after the letter indicates the year.. so its a 1988 model

Didn't the OP have SEVEN digits and a letter prefix? I'm in a similar position trying to date a renovated 531 frame with the number Y8090814. Am clutching at straws hoping that 7 digits = 1978 and 8 = 1988 frame.
 
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