Capital punishment

[Alison]

I don't believe we should sink to the depravity of these people just to think we've got our own back, surely we are better than that. Not to mention you'd just turn them into martyrs

Take Al Megrahi. Convicted of killing 270 by blowing up a plane over Lockerbie. It took ten years to get him to trial and then another ten years in jail at our expense. Then we release him (to a heroes welcome in Libya) because he supposedly had three months to live, yet he actually lived another three years.

No wonder the US think we're pussies.

Executing one guilty man in response to him deliberately killing 270 innocents does not make us the same in any way whatsoever, and I can't understand why anyone would see it differently.

I know it seams logical to put to death people who commit mass slaughter whether that being the Lockerbie disaster, or the Dunblane massacre, although he did kill himself, the point is killing one or many is still killing, it's still murder in my eyes. It is humanity at it's best that does not destroy a life for a life or many lives. I know that it is so easy to put to death these people but in some ways I think that is what they want, they want to be martyrs for their beliefs why give them that opportunity, Let them be prisoners for life, as I have said I would rather be the tax payer for a prisoner than an executioner for anyone .

Alison

 

[technodup]

It is humanity at it's best that does not destroy a life for a life or many lives. I know that it is so easy to put to death these people but in some ways I think that is what they want, they want to be martyrs for their beliefs why give them that opportunity,

I'd be happy with the trade off. We shouldn't be in a position where they win either way; martyrdom or life at at our expense.

It's one of those ones that public opinion would back, which is why politicians won't ask us if we'd like it.

 

[FMJ]

we are not as inhumane as you are. I know that is hard to accept, as part of me wishes the same on my aggressors, but it has to be objective not subjective.

Yet we'll put a dog down (via lethal injection) when it's beyond help and call it humane.

 

[Alison]

Is that not euthanasia? that's totally different that's people who are so physically ill that they feel there is only one way out in a life without value to them, that's a seriously ill person's choice it has nothing to do with murder of innocent civilians and their aggressors. I find this hard to argue to be honest, as I feel people have a right in certain circumstances to choose when they die. I don't want to be in a semi coma state and live, but I don't think people should die, especially to become martyrs because we feel they should die.

That is a mater to the individual, not a matter of law, well it is in this country, but at the Dignitas clinic it is not, and maybe here it also won't, although I cannot imagine it.

Alison

 

[dan smith]

It seems to be quite comm for dangerous dogs to be put down.

If a dog bites you badly i believe it often results in the dog being put down.

 

[Alison]

It seems to be quite comm for dangerous dogs to be put down.

If a dog bites you badly i believe it often results in the dog being put down.

Actually my neighbours dog bit my daughter quite badly, my neighbour was so sorry and offered to have his dog put down, we could not agree with such an action, he is still alive running around and not biting anyone. I still stand by my argument, murder for murder is not the answer. OK I don't know what is, I wish I had the answer, but if government has not answered it in centuries be if life or death, what are our prospects now, death shows not to be the answer.

Alison

 

[Alison]

Sorry Alison, I don't deal in 'opinions' only facts...

...I didn't intend any criticism of your 'opinion' only to correct your assumption that these evil b*stards are somehow 'disturbed'

They aren't; you can see people just like them on any street, in any major town with an ethnic population you care to mention.

These two both come from decent families, and both became disaffected, falling in with a very bad crowd as do so many young men of colour; I am not being 'politically incorrect' or the least bit 'racist' - try walking past Clapham Junction on a warm summers day and see how wrong you think I am...

...the general public and commuters just stand there and turn a blind eye to the gangs of youths who run through the crowds terrorising who they see fit, then sauntering across the road in front of the traffic giving verbal go any who challenge them!

They are a tiny minority but no-one does anything about it; all it would take would be a few like minded citizens to give them a good kicking every time they tried it and it would soon stop, but people would rather pretend it isn't happening and think about getting home in time for BGT or whatever other mind numbing tat is on the television that night... :|

Until the next riots that is!

Burying your head in the sand doesn't make the world a better place, immediate action does...

...if only!

sorry but what you say is still just opinions, do you think you have the antidote to all the worlds ilsl, sorry there is no antidote, just dealing with the moment trying to do the best we can is all there is. I'm sorry but saying non of them is disturbed is wrong, I think this obsessive belief is disturbed just like any belief taken to far is disturbed. Some of the most disturbed people have lived in very respectable families like Dennis Nielson. Being in a good family has nothing to do with your process in life, I was brought up in a very middle class family yet I spent 4.5 months in psychiatric hospital and many years trying not to destroy my children's life, am I worth killing because |I'm such a bad parent making my children live through my psychosis. I'm sorry but this kind of obsessive belief in religion is as much a psychological problem as OCD. The average John Doe does not murder it takes a special mind to murder and usually that's religion.

Alison

 

[videojetman]

in response to the above comment.
some people just use "religion" as an excuse to murder.
people who genuinely follow any faith know its wrong to murder.
but there will always be exceptions to that rule.

 

[Alison]

in response to the above comment.
some people just use "religion" as an excuse to murder.
people who genuinely follow any faith know its wrong to murder.
but there will always be exceptions to that rule.

en if you tink you have God's blessing or not to kill another in response to a killing

Yes there are people that use religion as a reason to murder, whether that be psychological reasons or not, but it will never excuse murder, the fact we face is, whether religious or not, is it right to take our feelings, in this case, upon another because as subjective citizens we feel it right. I really hate these people, hate them as much as anyone, I've lost members of my family, not to individuals as in this case but I can feel pain ,yet murder is not the option, it's just a way of saying we'll take eye for an aye tooth for a tooth which will never solve anything and has never had.

Alison

 

[technodup]

No wonder the US think we're pussies.

Not to my knowledge.

Polling taken the following week found that 82% of Americans opposed the decision, and 10% supported it.[48] A campaign to "Boycott Scotland" emerged on the internet, encouraging Americans to halt tourism and boycott Scottish products.[49]

The decision was called "absolutely wrong" by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton,[50] and "an outrage" and a "caving in" by Senator Frank Lautenberg.[42] President Barack Obama denounced the decision and Attorney General Eric Holder said that there was "no justification for releasing this convicted terrorist whose actions took the lives of 270 individuals."[44] Senator John Kerry, the former Democratic Presidential candidate, said that the decision “turn the word ’compassion’ on its head.”[51] FBI director Robert Mueller, who had been a lead investigator in the 1988 bombing, was "outraged at [the] decision,