Robin Williams Oh No, RIP Another Genius Lost!

mrkawasaki":2ipb4mbt said:
A great loss - will definitely cry next time I watch Good Will Hunting.

"So if I asked you about art, you’d probably give me the skinny on every art book ever written. Michelangelo, you know a lot about him. Life’s work, political aspirations, him and the pope, sexual orientations, the whole works, right? But I’ll bet you can’t tell me what it smells like in the Sistine Chapel. You’ve never actually stood there and looked up at that beautiful ceiling; seen that. If I ask you about women, you’d probably give me a syllabus about your personal favorites. You may have even been laid a few times. But you can’t tell me what it feels like to wake up next to a woman and feel truly happy. You’re a tough kid. And I’d ask you about war, you’d probably throw Shakespeare at me, right, “once more unto the breach dear friends.” But you’ve never been near one. You’ve never held your best friend’s head in your lap, watch him gasp his last breath looking to you for help. I’d ask you about love, you’d probably quote me a sonnet. But you’ve never looked at a woman and been totally vulnerable. Known someone that could level you with her eyes, feeling like God put an angel on earth just for you. Who could rescue you from the depths of hell. And you wouldn’t know what it’s like to be her angel, to have that love for her, be there forever, through anything, through cancer. And you wouldn’t know about sleeping sitting up in the hospital room for two months, holding her hand, because the doctors could see in your eyes, that the terms “visiting hours” don’t apply to you. You don’t know about real loss, ’cause it only occurs when you’ve loved something more than you love yourself. And I doubt you’ve ever dared to love anybody that much. And look at you… I don’t see an intelligent, confident man… I see a cocky, scared shitless kid. But you’re a genius Will. No one denies that. No one could possibly understand the depths of you. But you presume to know everything about me because you saw a painting of mine, and you ripped my **** life apart. You’re an orphan right? … You think I know the first thing about how hard your life has been, how you feel, who you are, because I read Oliver Twist? Does that encapsulate you? Personally… I don’t give a shit about all that, because you know what, I can’t learn anything from you, I can’t read in some ****’ book. Unless you want to talk about you, who you are. Then I’m fascinated. I’m in. But you don’t want to do that do you sport? You’re terrified of what you might say. Your move, chief."

Amen to this... Not enough scripts and movies of this caliber anymore. I blame his greedy ex wives and their lawyers ( not his kids ). $20M in alimony commitments ! He worked too hard to meet them and only recently lost a key role. The poor guy was 63 ffs, he is retirement age but the relentless pressure to keep up huge payments combined with his most likely self loathing comic melancholia tipped him over the edge.

Sorry for the rant but I have seen similar happen to a few mates over the years. :facepalm:
 
sparkiegaz":1yh5wdtk said:
mork and mindy for me,,,,,depressed and skint ,,still the most selfish and cowardly thing anyone could really do .. feel sorry for those that he left behind their spend rest of their lives thinking what they could have done every day ask them selfs why , great actor so funny,,always watch re runs of shows and movies,, but his family have a hole that never be filled again,,,,
That's easy rhetoric to say, though.

My family has been affected by suicide - and thinking the relative as selfish wasn't the first thought through my head. The first thought through my head - and I'd be 17 at the time - was what can have been so bad for them, that others didn't realise was so desperate, to make them do such a thing.

Plenty of people are plenty selfish in lots of decisions they make at various points in their life, for plenty more whimsical reasons, without the first, focused thoughts or accusations being how selfish they are - couples with kids, where one has an affair, people who have kids who take risks with hobbies or simply being reckless - like driving too fast, or drinking far too much, or taking drugs, smoking etc...

I see myself as fortunate, in that I don't recognise myself as ever (yet) having suffered from things like depression - so I may not be able to fully empathise - but I know people who have. It's not a trivial or optional thing, yet when such people find themselves without hope, and decide to end it, an easy accusation is that it's a selfish act - yet for other people who take risks for more trivial reasons, they are somehow spared this bile?
 
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kermitgreenkona88":jm8rxa2i said:
Tragedy does not even cover it, I am devastated :( :( :(

A complete shock.
shows the problem depression can have.
Thoughts to the family. 8)
A comic legend and comedy genius
 
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Grew up watching and listening to his shows etc.

Great guy I would have loved to have met some day.

I don't think you can be as great at acting the way he did, without there being a serious and genuine underlying issue.

He had suffered his entire life with this illness, and admitted the drugs and alcohol were a get out for the darkness inside.

Look at Jim Carey, the way he is as an actor, yet has also had more than 2 full on mental breakdowns.

With Robin wiliams past history,I suspect his family and friends were aware there could be a chance it would come to this. :-(

I used to think it was a selfish act, until It was explained to me that every natural instinct we poses is to stay alive.
To end your own life must be the hardest thing to do in the world.

No one person is beyond help, but some you can't help.

I Hope his soul is at rest, and his spirit stays strong.

Niall.
 
Yes, my husband and the children are on their way back from seeing my mother in law suffering the last stages of this disease, if your already carrying the lead overcoat of depression the prognosis of it would tip anyone over the edge .

Alison
 
I have been away for 3 weeks and one the few times i managed to get a signal was about 10 minutes after the news of this broke i was gutted like many he was up the top the list of all time favourite comedians and we will never see his like again i don't think.
 
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